PvE
The Node system facilitates the generation of new PvE content such as Quests, Dungeons, Raids and Monster coins.[5]
There is going to be a lot of PvE content for all portions of the playerbase... Part of that risk versus reward: Your risk is your time you're putting in to having a chance at getting the reward and successfully completing; and that should feel good based on how much time you devote. Now I know that there's a spectrum of casual and hard-core players in the time there, what we can do, but that's why we have many different content paths that play towards how you affect the world around you.[6] – Steven Sharif
PvE content adapts to the development of the world to avoid repetition.[4]
PvE difficulty
The difficulty of PvE encounters in Ashes of Creation is anchored to the PvX design of the game, which takes into account the unpredictable nature of other players into the encounter design. Ashes of Creation is not trying to directly compete against purely PvE oriented games.[9][10][11][12][13][14]
- Q: How do you intend to satisfy those who love difficult end-game PvE content, such as hard mode trials of ESO, ultimate raids of Final Fantasy 14, or Word of Warcraft mythic plus dungeons?
- A: To be honest with you, I'm not sure that we're trying to compete with those games and the content that they provide in that arena, because we're a different game. We're a PvX game, which means the types of challenges that PvE players can expect from us will oftentimes revolve around the additional component that players- that you can't predict their actions- provide the encounter design. So that's something that's systemically built in a PvX approach.[9] – Steven Sharif
- Q: Could you explain if there are mechanisms particularly during boss fights that protect players from PvP interactions, such as room locks, or are all raids intended to remain fully open to PvP?
- A: Some dungeons do have instancing. Some boss rooms are instanced. In those locations, yes they will be serviced either through a room lock or some other mechanism that protects the engagement- the environment of that encounter to who is intended to be there, but the majority of our encounters can be interrupted. They are open-world; and in those events where you have two groups that are coming together that might be at war with one another, where open flagging is not necessary, they are just flagged combatants with one another. They're going to have to manage the battlefield between what they're achieving in the PvE encounter versus now what they are experiencing in the dynamic player versus player encounter.[10] – Steven Sharif
- The majority of encounters in Ashes of Creation are open-world, but instancing will be used to tightly control encounter design. For example, some boss rooms within larger encounters may be instanced.[10][11][15][10]
- Instanced dungeons and raids will utilize room locks or other mechanisms to restrict the encounter to its target audience.[10]
- Stat dampening is a stacking debuff. As such, it is an important aspect of open-world PvP, where the group (or individual) that dies the most is increasingly less likely to be capable of contesting encounters against groups (or individuals) that have not died as frequently.[10]
- Q: How challenging will raid boss mechanics be given the given that players may need to simultaneously fight other players while also fighting the boss?
- A: It depends. The great thing about our encounter system is that it has a wide scalability from encounters that some might consider easy given their composition to encounters that some might consider impossible until they get their gear level to a certain stage. The level of interaction with other players is really predicated on the encounter itself. We may have some encounters that are in instances although the predominant portion of those will be in the open world, in which case they do have the potential being contested; and these encounters, especially the big ones that might land in contention, are giving some of the best-in-slot gear you can get in the game. So it's important that they are contested because it is a significant victory point; and one of our core pillars is risk versus reward: and the higher that risk the higher that reward should be. So those two things seem fitting and then in addition we do have the concept of winners and losers. Not everybody in Ashes of Creation is going to be a winner; and that sucks if you're not I guess, but there is opportunity for you to continue to excel and become one. But it gives much more meaning to an achievement when not everybody gets the achievement. That's our philosophy.[12] – Steven Sharif
- Encounters will have different challenge ratings and may necessitate specific builds, strategies, and compositions in order to be successful.[16][17][18][19]
- Q: So it's the sort of thing where it might be, we're going do a dungeon that's oops, all fire golems, so if everybody straps up with plate armor and fire resistance, you don't have to worry about the magic fire: you've got the fire resistance for. And when you start getting punched around, that's why everyone's come in with plate?
- A: The encounters design team presents a particular type of challenge rating- for those you're familiar with playing DnD or whatever, challenge rating gets informed by a few different vertical power levels, but then there's also the horizontal perspective: That is, what tools does your party have to address the challenge rating of the situation and some of the horizontal progression exists within how you kit your equipment slots. Some of those can be enhancements or stones, as you're discussing with fire resistance. Some of those are base stats that exist on a particular item, such as physical damage mitigation versus magical damage mitigation and what subtype of damage is incoming based on that. These are the ways that we emphasize that more rock-paper-scissors type of interaction with balance to where it's okay to have asymmetric imbalance if there are horizontal methods by which you achieve the challenge rating.[16] – Steven Sharif
- Encounter difficulty will dynamically adapt based on the number of participants and their performance against that and previous bosses in that encounter. This applies to both instanced and open-world encounters.[20][8][21][22][23]
- How does the state tree of the NPC respond to the actions of the players? Well, it weights certain actions and behaviors based off of what the players are doing and as it weights those things, it makes decisions that will be unique according to the encounter that's occurring in front of it. So, each time might be different as a result of that. That's one section. In addition, when we talk about the adaptive scaling- this isn't scaling in like power relation to the level of the player- this is scaling in the quantity of participants; and that means that it starts to weight the behaviors that include AoE actions higher than others as a result of the number of players who are present. This intrinsically increases the challenge rating of the encounter, because those AoE abilities are providing a higher return on DPS overall to the to the raid encounter for the monster.[20] – Steven Sharif
- Attunements may be present on certain encounters.[25]
- Attunements are a gatekeeping mechanism. They are a way to mitigate the potential PvX interaction that could interrupt your raid, because there is some level of effort that must be exerted by antagonists who would hope to interrupt your efforts. Now that was a specific narrative mechanic in A1. Is it possible that we will see those throughout the rest of the game? Absolutely, 100%. That is a valid design mechanic.[25] – Steven Sharif
- Both in Alpha-2 and when the game launches, there will be monsters whose technical level is above that of the cap; and the intent there is obviously again to provide some level of challenge that exceeds a comparable level challenge rating.[17] – Steven Sharif
- The higher the difficulty, the better the loot tables will be.[24]
Story arcs
Story arcs are unlocked by multiple types of player activity within each server realm.[30][28][27][31]
- Every stage a node develops it's unlocking narratives, storylines, it's changing the spawn population of the area around it, changing what bosses exist, it's triggering events where you may have legendary dragons attack the city. It's basically writing the story of the server based on the actions and determination of the players. So, you may experience a dungeon one month earlier and have a completely different story that relates to this location the next month, because something has changed either geopolitically or from the node standpoint.[31] – Steven Sharif
- Personal or class-based activity.[35][36][37][38][32][33][39][34]
- It is possible for some storylines to relate to a darker/evil path, if a character should choose.[40]
- Even player driven mechanics will still have story components. There will be a reason why the player driven mechanic is available or required of the player; so every system that's created touches a story.[39] – Steven Sharif
- If there are too many other major arcs happening at the same time in the same zone, a story arc may need to wait its turn, even if conditions are right for it to be unlocked.[30]
- Story arcs drive one or more storyline quests within the game.[41][42][43][44][34]
- Story arcs can branch into different stories with multiple possible endings depending on the quest objectives that players complete during each chapter.[41][42]
- The developers will try to ensure that story arcs in future expansions flow on from existing story arcs, regardless of the different possible outcomes.[41]
- Story arcs can initiate world events.[45]
- There will be a variety of different types of story arc content at different scales, with different cooldowns to suit different types of players in the game.[46]
- We must provide enough of this content at varying scales such that it isn't worthwhile or economical to control every single story arc in the world. Some will be smaller in scale and production value, and thus, will move faster and have shorter cooldowns before they're reintroduced.[46] – Skott B
- Story arcs offer content tailored to players at various adventuring levels. Lower level story arc content can influence what higher level players are able to do.[47]
- Q: Are the story arcs designed to engage players of all levels simultaneously, or certain segments specifically tailored for high-end or endgame content?
- A: We have story arcs that do both. We have story arcs that are catered towards high-end level ranges that are very specific to the types of adventuring levels that we want players to participate in that story arc, and then we have some story arcs that have different sections which cater to a broader diversity of level ranges; and the way we approach players participating in those more broader story arcs is that the activities of the lower level players feed up through the story arc, so what they're doing influences even what higher level players are able to do. And meeting the certain quota of objectives that are necessary to progress the story arc requires participation down the line across the story arc features. So, to answer your question shortly: We have both.[47] – Steven Sharif
- Corrupted resources are variations of resources that are only available in corrupted areas or during certain story arcs.[48][49][50][46]
Certain story arcs can be unlocked through the bulletin board system. Certain requirements would need to be met in order to access story arc quests.[51]
- Mayors require certain resources.[51]
- Buildings are required within a node.[51]
- Social organization tasks need to be completed.[51]
Quests
Quests in Ashes of Creation are divided into three main categories: Commissions, Side quests, and Story arc quests.[55][56][57][58][59]
- All three categories of quests will be available from a variety of local, hidden and discovered sources, such as commissions boards and NPC quest givers.[56][60]
- The various questing systems are intended to direct player activity toward content that affects the development of the world.[61]
- Nodes act as a hub; and one of the ways they direct player traffic is obviously through the commissions, the buy orders, things that essentially are supplying that demand of activity or action from the player; and then what the players choose to do is essentially the agency that's provided in helping to dictate how the world state will change.[61] – Steven Sharif
- Every type of quest can be shared with other players in the same party. This may be tuned based on Alpha-2 testing.[62][63]
- Story arc quests and events can be shared within a raid group.[64]
- Other types of quests, or commissions, if allowed within a raid group, may be selectively distributed with members of that raid.[64] For example: kill objectives may be shared, but drop objectives may go to the first member looting the drop.[65]
- If we do allow progression within narrative systems like a quest or commission, I think that's going to be distributed based on the number of raid or party participants. So, killing a particular monster is not going to get everybody a check mark on their progress towards killing 20. It's going to be one person's going to get that progression; and then it'll continue to the next person and so on and so forth. If we're talking about some questlines, like story arcs or events that have phases, or that have overall participation by many members then that progress can be shared at a party raid level. So there's different settings depending on what objective there is within a quest. Some of them will share, some of them will be distributed.[64] – Steven Sharif
- Certain quests, such as story arc quests, may not be able to be turned in after a node has advanced or has been destroyed.[66]
- Dialog choices within the quest UI are intended to affect gameplay, such as unlocking side quests and storylines.[67]
- Q: Will dialogue choices have any impact on the quests in regards to how NPCs respond to you or the overall outcome of that quest, or is it more just a role-playing perspective without any major impact?
- A: No. The dialogue choices are intended to provide an impact, both with the response of the NPC, it might also serve as predicates for other systems. If there are certain paths chosen within the dialogue tree it might unlock different side arcs and story lines that other players may not experience. The dialogue trees are not meaningless. They're meant to provide gameplay related context.[67] – Steven Sharif
- The developers utilize custom tools to design the narrative structure of the game.[55]
- We have our quest tooling, which obviously is in the order of commissions, of side quests, of story arcs. These systems are how our narrative designers introduce hand-held content essentially within the game. These are the breadcrumbs that take you out to points of interest, that take you along the golden path to node structures.[55] – Steven Sharif
Dungeons
Dungeons in Ashes of Creation will range in size and will be mostly open-world.[10][11][13][14]
- Open world dungeons will be populated to facilitate multiple groups within the dungeon.[11][72]
- Instanced dungeons will also be present and will cater for solo and group questlines.[72]
- 20% of dungeons will be instanced.[73][74]
- Some boss rooms (within larger encounters) will be instanced.[10]
- Instances will either be individual or party instances, and in rare cases raid instances.[11]
- Instanced dungeons and raids will utilize room locks or other mechanisms that restricts the encounter to its target audience.[10]
Different tiers and types of dungeon content will be more or less relevant to specific groups or class compositions.[75][11][76]
- Grand dungeons are expected to have more playable space and unique creature types than pocket dungeons.[75]
- Q: With most dungeons and POIs being non-instanced, how large and intricate can we expect dungeons to be in order to accommodate many groups and PvX potential? For example, how many players do you expect the Tower of Carphin to accommodate?
- A: Let me break that up into two sections. First it's important to note that while the vast majority of our playable areas are within the open world, there are some that are contained obviously within instances. Those instances being either individual instances, party instances, or even, in some rare cases, raid instances. with that being said however, part of the dynamic that a PvX game wants to emphasize when it comes to open world dungeons and playable spaces is the natural friction that occurs when scarcity is a real thing; and scarcity means that not all hunting areas are going to be the same quality. There are going to be specific loot tables that are relevant to certain hunting areas. There's going to be certain spawn rates that is relative to experience values for those areas. And there's going to be different compositions of mobs that are relevant to the areas as well; and so because there are these tiers of quality of hunting grounds, that creates a rarity value essentially to those locations, of which then there is a level of scarcity because there's limited space. So we are going to be creating spaces that are very large, to answer the first part of the question, that will host many many many groups; and we're also going to have spaces that are relatively small and might only be able to cater to one or two groups.
- Second part of your question as it relates to Carphin. Carphin is broken up as a hunting area into two primary sections: There is the tower itself and then there is the wreckage of the city in which Carphin existed beneath. Now, the beneath section is the wreckage itself, is generally catering towards groups of three to five players. So it's not so much a solo area, but it is an area where you might go with a few friends. But if you went with a full party then maybe your kill rate needs to be really high; and there's a few sections that are in the wreckage area that could support that, but not the entire wreckage. Okay, so that's an important distinction to keep in mind when thinking about the dungeon itself. The tower is intended for full parties and there are I believe five levels above the base level, so six total levels that are playable; and each of those levels will support anywhere from three to four groups essentially. So it is a relatively large structure: a vertical dungeon that we're expecting groups to spend a lot of time in. And it's not intended that the groups go between levels. It's intended that they find a level and they carve out a section of that level that they're going to be hunting in; and then another group's going to be near them and maybe there's going to be some friction because they keep pulling mob from your section and you're like, "Hey what the hell dude, get the hell out of my section", and they're like "No, you're gonna die now!"[11] – Steven Sharif
- Dungeon difficulty will increase the further a player ventures into a dungeon.[77]
- Mobs and mob mechanics will become more difficult.[77]
- Terrain and environmental dangers will increase.[77]
- Deeper darker types of interactions will be found deeper in the dungeon.[77] – Steven Sharif
- Q: Will open-world dungeons have a negative feedback loop for those who are busing or carrying dungeons for lower level players?
- A: There is a level disparity mechanic that prevents players who are outside of 9 to 10 levels of the highest level within the party from collecting experience through their adventuring. So, to some degree there is a safeguard with regards to that; and then obviously the way that we cater the encounter experience, depending on those locations, are going to require that a party is operating at at a high efficiency level in order for it to be efficient for that lower level player to participate and gain levels in a way that makes sense. So, I think there are some safeguards with regards to that. And the other thing is that, if you're paying other players to power level you, or you're engaging in any type of RMT, we have behavioral heat mapping which will help us identify those individuals and take action.[78] – Steven Sharif
There were 13 dungeons in Alpha-1.[79] Originally this was estimated to be 6 or 7.[80]
Raids
Raids will either be based on triggered events or more traditional systems. Traditional world bosses will change based on node development.[83]
- We want things to be more fluid and one of the ways that we make them more fluid is through our triggered event system. That is one of the methods by which we make these more spontaneous. We make them more accessible to a wider audience. You can be just in the city and not normally be a part of a raid team, but now get to participate in this organic event that's popped up around the city and if you are not participating then buildings are gonna get destroyed and NPCs are going to die... It's not just how fast can we do it, how will we get it done in its schedule, but oh my god this thing popped up if we don't kill it we're not going to access to our stables this week and we can't get our animal husbandry certificates... It's that risk versus reward that gives you a sense of adrenaline.[84] – Steven Sharif
- The majority of raids in Ashes of Creation are open-world.[10][11][13][14] Only a minority of raids will be instanced.[11]
- Some boss rooms (within larger encounters) will be instanced.[10]
- Instanced dungeons and raids will utilize room locks or other mechanisms that restricts the encounter to its target audience.[10]
World bosses
- World bosses will spawn at variable locations at variable times.[86][87][88]
- The general philosophy is that respawns will be variable. We don't want to have set specific times in which respawns will occur, so that they can be camped and farmed. But there'll be variable location respawns as well as variable time respawns. And then that provides opportunities for different parties to engage at different times and locations.[87] – Steven Sharif
- World and regional bosses will scale based on the types, locations, and progression of nodes.[90][91]
- Some world bosses will have stages of progression, such as defeating acolytes, then lieutenants, then generals, then the world boss itself.[96]
- At each stage there is increasing difficulty. This may be parsed out into different time periods and be behind a wall of development.[96]
- A single digit percentage of the population will be capable of defeating certain content.[96]
- There will be ancillary effects that happen as a result of downing certain world bosses.[97]
- This can positively impact the land management in that area.[98]
- Around 80% of the content is open-world, where healthy competition is an instigator for player friction; for potential cooperation; for the ability to yield alliances; and the political theater that comes with it. This is an intended part of the PvX design of Ashes of Creation.[99][35][36][37][38]
Adaptive content
New points of interest (such as dungeons, world bosses, and corrupted areas) spawn as nodes develop.[101][102] This content adapts to the node progression of the zone it is in.[100][103]
- Additional buildings will spawn.[100]
- Additional mobs will spawn.[100]
- Different antagonists/leaders with different story lines.[100][103]
- Populations will change.[103]
- Content difficulty will change.[103]
- The content may be different altogether.[103]
- Additional quest hooks.[100]
- Dungeons will be unlocked when certain nodes advance to certain stages.[59]
- Drop tables in areas and dungeons will be tied into the progression of certain areas.[59]
- POI events are events that relate to specific points-of-interest (POI).[106]
- The location of points of interest will be the same on each server realm, but some servers may have limited or no access to them.[107]
- Certain dungeons and other points of interest across the map will all be affected by the server’s node development. Some dungeons will only be unlocked if nodes are developed to certain stages. The storyline objectives for players inside dungeons will also be dependent on the story arc paths chosen through the node system. The drop tables in area and dungeons will also be tied into the progression of certain areas. For example, let’s say that the humans have developed a node in Region A, and a storyline has opened up that leads players to inspect the ruins (dungeon) of a nearby area. And let’s say that this node was developed in a scientific (crafting) zone… Well before the node developed, this dungeon was accessible… But now the dungeon has propagated new monster assets that include a drop table catering to a crafting emphasis because of the development of that academic node. And perhaps, a new boss appears in different rooms of the dungeon that includes different adventure quest starts, like a mysterious item with a storyline that can only be progressed if a node develops to the metropolis stage in a certain region, across the world. Our system is so vast, when it comes to interconnectivity and how the world reacts to the players.[59]
Raid strategies
Raids will have elements that can be pre-planned.[4]
Raids will also have dynamic elements that can change from session to session.[4]
- The types and numbers of bosses and mobs present in the raid and their skill repertoire.[4]
- Variables are manifested based on node progression.[4]
- The number of metropolis nodes developed.[4]
- The types of metropolis nodes developed.[4]
- One of the design elements that we're implementing into our raids is that the raid will not be exactly the same every single time. You're going to have variables that can't necessarily be pre-planned out for. You can pre-plan out for a lot of the raid like how many DPS do you need and healers and support; where the key position and all that stuff; but I think the compelling aspect of Ashes raiding will be the difficulty in achieving this content and having that content change from session to session as well. We want there to be variables that get manifested by what type of node got developed elsewhere. Is he going to have acolytes or cultists? What will the acolytes have skills [available] to them? What kit is the boss gonna have? What available skill repertoire will the boss be able to [wield]? ... A lot of those systems are influenced obviously by world development. So the raid takes into account at what stage has the world developed: Are there two metropolises now available in the world? Okay well let's activate this skill in this skill. Now you have five metropolises, well now all these skills have been activated. Are there are they all economic nodes? Are they all military nodes? That we can change things based on that stuff. And it really is a threat assessment from the environment against the players.[4]{{ndash|Steven Sharif}
Player driven narrative
The world of Verra will be the same on each server realm, but Nodes will develop differently. Different servers will have different narratives. Things that happen on one server may not happen on another.[109]
- The overarching narrative of Ashes of Creation is that players are the returning children of Verra but they will not be characterized individually as "saviors".[110]
We want as many people as possible to experience the main server Narrative. These will branch at different scales, but largely at the personal level. Where things change is at the Node level – different parts of the story will be unlocked based on where and when Nodes grow. Unlocking a part of the story in a certain way locks out progression of the story in a different way. You’ll see different antagonists, different NPCs, and different calls to action depending on what’s happening with the server at that time.[111]
It redefines what the players will experience in an MMORPG to come into a wilderness that is devoid of really any structure outside of what the community creates themselves; and then what can be created can be changed, if they want to experience a storyline that's been seen on another server, but you're fighting a dragon because you're near a mountain and the other server's fighting a Kraken because they're near the coast and you want to fight that Kraken because of its drop table. If you want to meta it or because you just want that under your belt: to be the server first to take out that Kraken and you have yet to develop the node there, it's incumbent upon you to manifest that in the game.[112] – Steven Sharif
Corrupted areas
Corrupted areas (zones/points of interest) can dynamically evolve with the progression of nodes and story arcs.[114][48][30][28][27][115][101]
- Harbingers that exist on Verra as dungeons are where The Ancients are capable of pushing into the material plane. They can continue to do so under the guise of the effects of corruption as it spreads.[116]
- These are sources of NPC events that players need to address before they grow out of hand.[114][117][115]
- Players need to participate in these events to stop the spread of corruption and hold back the intrusion on the material plane.[114][116]
- If players fail to address these corrupted areas, the frequency of NPC events against their node will increase. These can lead to node buildings and services being disabled, increasing the node's vulnerability to node sieges.[118]
- It can be a very detrimental thing if corruption is not addressed; and that's the intent of corruption, is to present a challenge to the players that if not addressed it becomes exacerbated and a problem over time.[118] – Steven Sharif
- Corrupted areas do not confer corruption onto a player. Only PvP related activities lead to player corruption (in the flagging system).[119][120]
- To degree your mortal coil, as we call it, or what some might consider a soul from your character's perspective within this story- can be influenced and can be changed into a shape that's more in tune with corruption; and that's through doing PvP things you can accomplish that.[119] – Steven Sharif
- When it enters the corruption state outside of weather, in that corrupt state, you will probably see a little bit less of the influence of the season because really it's adopting that corruption, which in-and-of-itself is a season.[121] – Steven Sharif
- Corrupted areas will spawn variations of mobs and resources.[114]
- Corrupted resources are only available in corrupted areas or during certain story arcs.[114][48][49][50][46]
Artificial intelligence
Ashes of Creation utilizes an adaptive artificial intelligence (AI), meaning different encounters with similar mobs and bosses will yield different player experiences.[122][2]
- The level or stats of bosses will not scale due to player levels or numbers, however boss AI is able adapt to player numbers through the selection of mechanics and behaviors.[92][93][90][94][95]
- As you add more players to an open world encounter there are going to be certain behaviors and/or actions that might now be higher in frequency as a result of those additional players coming in; and some of those systems might be different AoE abilities or behaviors that the AI has available to it.[92] – Steven Sharif
- Some NPC AI behaviors may be randomly selected at the time of initial engagement causing them to make decisions dynamically during an encounter.[122][21][123][124]
- Higher frequency of AoE attacks depending on how many players are participating.[21]
- Unlock rage, recovery effects and buffs.[125][21]
- Supporting other monster types or classes nearby.[125]
- Additional adds and add classes.[21]
- Some NPCs may attempt to seek cover behind obstacles during encounters.[126]
- NPCs performing "idle actions" to make the world seem more alive has been discussed by the developers but is not confirmed.[127]
- Part of the NPC encounter design is not always going to be the same behavior tree. There will be purposefully behaviors that exist for the boss that are rolled at the time of the initial engagement; and so that is in an effort to keep things emergent, to keep things different, to try to not keep a static monotonous engagement idea.[122] – Steven Sharif
There are AI systems that don't relate to controlling NPCs.[128]
- There are some additional AI parameters that are set that don't relate necessarily to controlling NPCs. There are AIs with regards to the development of the borders for nodes in the direction and also the decisions that are made of which lower nodes to enslave as vassal states. There's AI that relates to a little bit of the stock market that's going to be present in the economy. There's some AI systems that are going to be announced also that are pretty innovative I think with regards to the MMORPG genre and that's going to make the triggered event system very interesting I think; and that's with regards to how nodes develop and the environment reacts to that development by spawning these triggered events of a horde of zombies attacking a city or a legendary raid boss coming out of the mountain. I think there's a lot of opportunity for some of the innovations that's been in the AI sector of game development too to come out in Ashes.[128] – Steven Sharif
Group dynamics
Group dynamics aim to bring players together.[130]
- One of the main philosophical pillars behind our design was that PvE must be impactful and inclusive. We want solo players, small groups and large groups to all have a home within our system.[2]
- A shorter TTK is expected to help solo players and smaller groups compete with larger groups or zergs.[131]
- Q: Are there ways to combat larger groups and not just let sheer numbers determine the victory? Are there going to be AoE that do more damage based on how many people are within this proximity?
- A: If we're talking about smaller TTK numbers then the and the room for error being less that means that you can have a scenario where a larger group- and by definition a Zerg, which is less organized, less skilled players, but are numbers over skill- there is now a better opportunity for the smaller group to prevail against the larger group, if they are better organized and more skillful; which tends to be the case in smaller groups. So intrinsically those two philosophies are tied to one another. The shorter TTK and the how do you solve the zerg problem. Well, by definition, the zerg problem gets solved through skill.[131] – Steven Sharif
- Ashes of Creation is in development. These systems could change through playtesting and player feedback.[130]
Group sizes
Ashes of Creation is designed for solo players as well as large and small groups.[133][134][135]
- The idea behind an 8-person group is to allow us to really amplify party roles, and to create a need for each of the archetypes in every party.[130]
- Raids will have 40 man groups.[136]
- Content will be tailored for 40, 16 and 8 person group sizes.[137]
- Arenas will have 1 man, 3 man, 5 man and possibly 20 man Free-For-All (Deathmatch) group sizes.[138]
- Castle sieges are expected to have at minimum 250x250 players to be on a single battlefield, with the possibility of increasing this to 500x500 over time.[140][141][142][143]
- The minimum goal is 500 players on a single battlefield. I think we will be able to hit 500vs500 but we shall see.[143] – Steven Sharif
Solo players
Ashes of Creation provides gameplay options for solo oriented players, but the developers encourage players to find other players to help with progression, especially during Alpha-2.[145][146][133]
- Ashes of Creation as we know is all about community, is all about creating these pseudo factions: That's the whole intent behind the citizenship system within nodes, [and] the religious and social systems, is to help find these pseudo factions that you can become a member of and that can help you throughout the gaming experience; and that is especially true in Alpha-2 as we continue to work on content and progression and scaling and tuning and all those things.[146] – Steven Sharif
- Certain quest lines and hunting grounds are devoted towards solo players.[145][133][2]
- For those solo players who don't really care about finding a community to play with but they want to have one when they need it, there's going to be a lot of opportunities from a dialogue perspective, in-game chat options; you can join as part of citizenships: there's a lot of pseudo factions there- social organizations that give you an in to other players without the strong bonds that typically come with guild-oriented organizations; and I think that that's a comfortable medium between the two.[133] – Steven Sharif
- Node citizenship and social organizations provide the ability to interact without the strong bonds that typically come with guild-oriented organizations.[145][133][147]
- Mechanics exist within larger conflicts for small groups and solo players to impact the battle.[148]
- This includes systems that will likely focus on single group sized participants while the larger battle is occurring.[148]
- A shorter TTK is expected to help solo players and smaller groups compete with larger groups or zergs.[131]
Looting rules
Ashes of Creation intends to use traditional loot rules, selected by the party or raid leader.[151][152][130]
- Loot in Ashes of Creation encounters is finite and must be distributed between party or raid members who complete the encounter. There is no individual loot system that grants loot to all participants. This essentially acts to balance the lowered risk in large numbers against lower chances of gaining rewards.[153]
- Group loot rules are defined on a per-rarity basis.[149]
- A majority of party members must vote to approve any changes to group loot allocation changes.[150]
- The developers are considering using a double-tap interaction to loot all containers within a close proximity radius.[154]
- There won't be auto-looting pets.[155]
- It will be possible to kick a player from a party prior to them acquiring loot.[156]
- Yes, technically it would be possible for you to kick a player prior to acquiring loot. However, again because we are a game that relies on social interactions, there are reputations to be had; and if you acquire a reputation as a raid leader, or as a party leader, of doing something dirty like that, then it's unlikely you'll be able to Garner the support of future party members and/or raids to lead efforts against these raid bosses.[156] – Steven Sharif
- Free-for-all.[130]
- Whoever is first to loot gets the loot.[151]
- A master looter (or lootmaster) is a player designated by the party leader to decide how loot is distributed in a dungeon or raid party.[130]
- With round-robin looting, party members take turns looting.[130]
- This is a traditional need before greed system based on dice rolls.[130]
- Since there is very little gear binding in Ashes of Creation, it's left to the party to deal with players who excessively roll Need on loot.[158]
- Currently, the winners of need or greed rolls must directly interact with the loot container to claim the items. If the loot isn't claimed within a period of time, it will become public. This design may change based on further testing.[157]
- Q: Why did need and greed change from going into your bag to now doing it where you have to go and pick up the item?
- A: The intended design is twofold: One, on an engineering side there was some concern about preserving the rights currently based off of net relevancy and distance, so we tried to cut down the time that you could roll need or greed; and then we also introduced a pause to the public loot rights timer on the loot container. But more so on the design side of it, part of I think the PvX engagement of an environment is not just, let's say, killing the mini boss, or killing the boss, or killing the creatures, but it is controlling the space after that to the point where you can ensure when that rolling is complete that you have access to the loot container to claim your reward as well; and that other players could potentially kill you during that process and wait until the loot container goes to a public permission setting. And we were having situations where players could sit in a node, or sit in a town in a raid or in a party and be granted the reward being nowhere near the loot container. So as an interim solution we incorporated this needing to interact with the loot container after successfully passing the rolls. And we're going to test with that and see how that goes with certain PvX situations.[157] – Steven Sharif
- Bidding system.[130]
- Intrepid are investigating a potential bidding system, which allows players to bid on items instead of rolling for them.[130]
Party roles
Ashes of Creation has the traditional trinity of Tank, DPS (damage dealers) and Support (healer or non-healer) roles.[159][130][160]
- We have our eight base archetypes; and the trinity is a pretty strong influence with regards to the eight base classes. However the area in which we actually begin to play with that line between the trinity is in the secondary classes that you can pick. That's where we begin to blend those spaces and allow people a little bit of influence over their role and whether or not they fit perfectly within a particular category within the trinity.[161] – Steven Sharif
- Although traditional roles are present, players should not feel branded by their primary archetype.[130][160]
- Skill augments available through the class system allow characters to be personalized outside of their primary role.[130][160][161]
- Players can also double down on their archetype choice to strengthen their primary role.[130][160]
- There is a significant amount of flavor change as well as mechanics change that exists when adopting a secondary archetype as we implement that in the future. That is the intent behind the augment system that it very much changes the class fantasy and adopts one that's more representative of those of combinations.[162] – Steven Sharif
PvX
Ashes of Creation is a PvX game. Players will naturally encounter both PvP and PvE elements.[165][166][164][167][168] It is unlikely that a player could purely focus on just PvP or just PvE.[164][163][167][168]
- Ashes is a PvX game; and so in that regard, your ability to wholesale disconnect from the PvP elements of the game are likely not going to be entirely successful. Now, does that mean that you can reduce your exposure to PvP? A hundred percent; and there are multiple play paths and progression points that players can elect instead to be more PvE focused, but by the sheer nature of risk-versus-reward, and risk including not being able to predict how other players might impact your gameplay, that is an element of the innate risk that exists in the multiplayer environment of a PvX setting. So, not everybody is going to like that and we accept that; and we're not trying to build a game that everybody is going to like, because everybody it's doing that is not going to be successful, because there're just people with different interests; and you know we accept that and we're very on the nose about what we're trying to achieve. The idea is not to create a gank fest, is not to create a grief fest. That is not what PvX is; and so because of that we have certain mechanisms and systems that govern the way players engage in PvP and the majority of those are opt-in, but there is always that element of risk that's governed by the flagging system. And so, if you're interested in that I would take a look at the Wiki and look up what flagging is, and look up what corruption is. My experience tells me- and my expectations of the system are that they will signal significantly reduce a player's exposure to non-consensual PvP, but that risk is always going to be present to some degree.[166] – Steven Sharif
- A defining principle of Ashes of Creation as a PvX game is that PvE builds the world, and PvP changes the world.[169]
- Around 80% of the content is open-world, where healthy competition is an instigator for player friction; for potential cooperation; for the ability to yield alliances; and the political theater that comes with it. This is an intended part of the PvX game design.[99][35][36][37][38]
- There won't be separate PvE and PvP server realms but some servers may be more PvP focused than others.[166][167][170]
- I think what's important for a developer is to focus on the identity you want to have and not to try to have every identity possible- because when you do that you get to service a core audience and servicing a core audience is a strong metric of success, meaning that you can't appeal to everyone; and the games that are choosing to double down on the PvE content, there's a large PvE crowd of players out there that just want to have PvE content and they're going to succeed with those groups and I wish them the best and I hope that they do a great job in delivering the promise of a strong central PvE focused mmorpg, because that just makes the genre better. But for Ashes, we are a PvX game. We are focused on PvX and we have been completely unabashed about that approach throughout the development history. We have been upfront and personal about what PvX means so that when we are speaking to our audience, our audience knows who they are and whether or not that's something that interests them.[165] – Steven Sharif
- PvX players are the core audience of Ashes of Creation.[165][171]
- We're very clear with our objective and philosophy on the game and we understand that they may not appeal to everybody. But it is an important reciprocal relationship between the content that's related to PvE and the content that's related to PvP and they feed off of each other. They're catalysts for change: Their progression, their development. It's things that people can value when they see something earned and they see something lost. That elicits an emotional response from the player: That they've invested time in to either succeed or fail; and PvP allows for that element to be introduced into gameplay. And we're very clear that is our objective: That risk versus reward relationship, that achievement-based mentality. Not everybody's going to be a winner and that's okay.[38] – Steven Sharif
- All stats relate to a player's combat effectiveness in PvX.[172]
- There will not be different PvP and PvE gear types.[173]
Gameplay videos
- 2024-11-27 Video - Giants and Demons
- 2024-10-25 Livestream
- 2024-09-27 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Lionhold Preview
- 2024-09-27 Livestream
- 2024-08-30 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Citadel of The Steel Bloom and Firebrand Preview
- 2024-08-30 Livestream
- 2024-04-30 Livestream
- 2024-02-29 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Commissions Preview
- 2023-11-30 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Artisanship Preview
- 2023-10-31 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Caravan Preview
- 2023-09-29 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Event Update
- 2023-08-31 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Village Nodes Update
- 2023-05-31 Video - Alpha Two Cyclops Combat Preview
- 2023-03-31 Video - Alpha Two Story Arc Systems Preview and the Lore of Carphin
- 2022-12-02 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Night and Day and Other Heavenly Things
- 2022-10-28 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Gathering Updates
- 2022-09-30 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Basic Ranged Weapon Attack Update
- 2022-06-30 Video - Ashes of Creation Alpha Two Basic Melee Weapon Attack Update
- 2021-07-30 Livestream
- 2021-04-30 Video - 4K - Alpha One Raid Boss - April Update
- 2018-02-09 Livestream
Visuals
2024-09-03 2024-09-02 2024-03-02 2024-03-01 2024-03-01 2023-06-02 2023-06-01 2023-01-30 2022-10-31 2022-08-27 2022-07-02 2021-05-01 2021-01-30 2020-12-24 2020-11-09 2020-05-29 2020-03-28 2018-08-10 2018-02-28 2018-01-19 2018-01-19
See also
References
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